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Post by Makaveli on Oct 1, 2005 9:26:03 GMT -5
I just recently did a google search and found the COLOR'ed version of the picture, if you are sensitive to mature photographs including dead bodies, cuts, blood or anything of that nature please Do Not click the following link: www.2pac-online.20m.com/images/autopsy.jpg
The only suspicous thing now that I look back is that the face is not shown, and that makes it very hard to identify it as fake or real. Also, the cuts dont seem very organized as I would imagine an autopsy is...
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Post by Joshua on Oct 1, 2005 9:38:53 GMT -5
Well it looks like him, has the tattoos and such but the cuts are fucked up.
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Post by sergio517 on Oct 1, 2005 15:17:16 GMT -5
I strongly believe that it is him.
Why would he fake his death? He would be a coward to fake it in order to hide from people after him especially since he claims to be hopeless, untouchable, & ganster.
Why would he live in hiding?
So many people believe that he is dead and faking it would piss so many people off. They even have tribute songs and such.
Seems Elvis & 2PAC are major conspirators for death faking.
I still feel he is dead. A life in hiing is no life for anyone. I somehow feel if Bid Laden was living in a cave that he would go crazy by know.
Damn, I can't picture Bin Laden living in a cave playing Xbox. lol
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Post by Makaveli on Oct 2, 2005 10:44:07 GMT -5
I strongly believe that it is him. Why would he fake his death? He would be a coward to fake it in order to hide from people after him especially since he claims to be hopeless, untouchable, & ganster. Why would he live in hiding? So many people believe that he is dead and faking it would piss so many people off. They even have tribute songs and such. Seems Elvis & 2PAC are major conspirators for death faking. I still feel he is dead. A life in hiing is no life for anyone. I somehow feel if Bid Laden was living in a cave that he would go crazy by know. Damn, I can't picture Bin Laden living in a cave playing Xbox. lol I still think theres a higher chance he is dead, but everytime I find these clues (always happens to be september) I start to think again. As for hiding from his enemies, thats one of the reasons that push me away from believing...Pac is the guy who gets the job done and die if he fails. Every now and then though, you must wonder if just maybe its possible because of all the facts...if only we had facts that he IS dead...
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Post by sergio517 on Oct 6, 2005 2:49:34 GMT -5
I know what u mean Maka. It's like you need cold hard evidence.
I know. Even that Elvis thing gets me thinking.
A while back I was listening to the Mancow Show on Q101 with Mancow Muller and the crew. There was some guy preaching that Elvis was indeed alive and looking very old and that he lives from place to place. He boasted a website called
thetruthaboutelvispresley.com (I think that's right)
He mentioned that he faked his death to escape from his stardom and such. The guy sounded intelligent and like his story was believeable, but I'm a very open minded person and I like to develop my own theories. I like to think that both scenarios could be true. Even with 2Pac. I can still have a feeling that somehow he faked his death for reasons unknown.
Take religion for example.
Since religions are man made, I don't feel like there is one religion out there with all the answers. I'm a Catholic and ALWAYS will be. I don't have to agree with everything about catholics, but that doesn't mean that I'm gonna run out to seek another religion because of it. To me, my religion is like my Mexican ethnicity. I'm proud to have been born a Mexican-American Catholic. Somehow I have a feeling that all religions have a piece of a puzzle, that when put together reveals a very huge mystery. Some people make me sick when they come to me and preach about why they love their religion so much based on their opinions that the church is nice and that the pastor is cool.
WTF! Church is not about having a "cool" pastor/ priest. I've seen people at a christian church once and all I saw were fake people clapping their hands to music as if it were a concert. Supposedly the more you clap, the more you love Jesus. I was saddend at the aweful display. All those people were full of shit because as soon as the service ended, they went back to being the sinners they were. It's like they wore a mask for church. I've heard so much crap about those people that I wonder why they even dare go to church.
Oh and the reason I went to a Christian church was because my Catholic girlfriend went there because of her uncle attending there. I went to hear her sing and I disliked the whole atmosphere. Soon after she left that crap of a church. The reason being was because during a service, her pastor had the damn nerve to "proclaim" her family "evil" just because her uncle and aunt left to another church. This happened during a Christmas service. He told her not to associate with her own blood because they were wrong for going to another church. That "pastor" is a sick SOB.
Sorry to those christian. I don't mean to offend.
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Post by Joshua on Oct 6, 2005 17:13:28 GMT -5
I believe there is a god but I am no specific religion, they are all right and all currupt in some way or another. I follow my heart and I do what I feel is right and believe what I feel is true.
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Post by DaAfroMan on Oct 6, 2005 17:54:44 GMT -5
hmmm... ...from the pictures I've seen it would seem that the cuts are indeed orthadox if a person were to get a autopsy... ...however, if they KNEW that it was a gun that killed him the law is not authorised to perform an autopsy on the victim as contrary as commonly shown on CSI unless the family demands one, besides, in a standard autopsy the body would NOT be cut from the shoulders to the chest to the gut in a "Y" shaped cut, Another thing I find fishy about the picture is the cut on the head... ... A bullet could'nt POSSIBLY have cause that much damage and when and autopsy is performed on the head it is usually via catscan or an x-ray... ... the pictures are of a low quality and seem excessivly blurred... ...Also from the pictures here it would seem as if some rookie at photo processing made this image... ...also, if you don't refer to his songs you will notice that no one had a MOTIVE to kill him... ...I believe this entire matter a hoax... ...in fact it could very well be that anyone on this site could be tupac in life... ...it seems highly unlikely but think on the facts, he is most likely alive. There is one problem that remains however... ...why would he fake his own death? Is it to EXCAPE a REAL plan to kill him or simply to avoid fame?
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Post by sergio517 on Oct 6, 2005 18:18:21 GMT -5
I believe there is a god but I am no specific religion, they are all right and all currupt in some way or another. I follow my heart and I do what I feel is right and believe what I feel is true. Great philosophy Josh. As a Catholic that is what I strive for. I just carry the name catholic, but am not a blind religous follower. I mean Jesus was a jew, so why are we not all jews? Religion is a bit fishy and that is why my philosophy on life is like Josh's.
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Post by DaAfroMan on Oct 6, 2005 21:09:30 GMT -5
is that REALLY how quick topics die on this site?
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Post by Makaveli on Oct 6, 2005 21:23:33 GMT -5
It didnt really die, its just gone a bit off-topic.
Motive? Well, I guess if you dont listen to his music there is no way to know one, but thats the whole point of his death (possibly), he dissed:
Biggie Smalls Mobb Deep P Diddy (basically all bad boy entertainment) Jay Z Nas Dr. Dre Snoop Dogg (somewhat) And many others, I just cant think of at the moment.
So basically that is a list of people who might have some motive.
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Post by DaAfroMan on Oct 6, 2005 22:42:52 GMT -5
True. but they are artist themselfs. They would'nt dare to kill someone. If they were somehow involved in the killing then they would have had something about NOT doing it in thier songs or something to cover it up. sides, if it WAS in fact one of them it still seems odd because BOTH the killer AND Tupac not having anyone such as bodygaurds or the press on thier back, expecially after a concert? It seems improbable, if not imposible. It WOULD be unless the killers bodygaurds were in on it, if that was the truth then 5 bullets = 4 bodygaurd and the killer if each took a shot. And I actually did listen to about 60 tupac songs and realise now that you mention it he DID insult other artist. But they did the same back so this would'nt be much of an issue. If someone had motive to kill him for it, it would have to be a VERY agressive and violent artist if one at all. Thus my point stands. He is likely alive but I may be mistaken.
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Post by Kain on Oct 7, 2005 0:36:59 GMT -5
Only thing about your theory though, Afro, is that the main ACTUAL suspect in his death had always been the Crips. Cause Pac beat the shit out of a Crip member not long before his death. The whole deal about Biggie and others have really been nothing but POSSIBLE suspects and characters in fans THEORIES. *Shrugs*
I think Afeni said it best on the bonus features of Tupac: Ressurection - "If Pac was really alive, do you think that he would be able to be quit." Obviously bringing out the fact of Pac's vocalness on issues... BTW, that's not a DIRECT quote, been a while since I seen the DVD
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Post by Makaveli on Oct 7, 2005 16:28:15 GMT -5
The most likely suspect is obviously the crips, I agree Kain.
Supposedly, Pac was in the crips and they didnt think he was all he said he is in his rhymes and thats how it happened. Though, if thats true, Snoop would be dead.
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Post by sergio517 on Oct 7, 2005 16:31:25 GMT -5
I would just like to say that some of 2PAC's rhymes made him seems like an intelligent man, but being part of a gang was very stupid of him. His life literally went nowhere because of his AWESOME GANGS.
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